Showing posts with label speaking in tongues. Show all posts
Showing posts with label speaking in tongues. Show all posts
Friday, November 21, 2025
Monday, March 17, 2025
Testing the Spirits
We are told in the Bible the following.
"1 John 4:1-3
On Denying the Incarnation
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. ..."
There are people who have exercised a ministry in doing just this in various countries. There are some in Austalia who have worked in this area.Some in America and I woukd guess other countries as well.What do you think it means? I have put a link below to an audiotape on the internet by the late Stan Motherwell. I have a copy of this and first heard it many years ago.There have been many extremes in the Charismatic and Pentecostal movement.This is a message by Stan challenging the movement as it was gaining much momentum in the 1970's.I have not been involevd in this ministry.This shoukd be listened too with discretion and discernment.
In talking to my minister who alerted me to this practice he advised that usually those who agreed to this test discovered the spirit giving their tongue was not from God.
These people were Christians who had been deceived.
https://promiseboxaudio.com/stan-motherwell-the-movement-of-gifts/
Sunday, April 14, 2024
Friday, November 13, 2015
A Challenge for the Christian Church
When I look at the world today, especially as we have just this
morning heard of more terrible terrorist attacks in Paris, and the
changes in morals world wide, the spread of drug addiction and it's
horrors and the continual attacks on Christians ad Christianity by the
media at large and many individuals it causes me to reflect once again
how come the Church is not a more positive influence in this world as it
was in the reformation.
I picked up a book the other day by Helmut Thielicke called "The trouble with the Church".
It was published in 1965.
I haven't read it all but can say amen to some of his points.
He probably was feeling like I do today.
I am disturbed in this day and age by lots of things I see happening in the Church and things I don't see that should be happening
I firmly believe the Church is the Bride of Christ and still has a huge role to play in the Drama of the Ages.
However I think we may well be like the Church in the book of Revelation that it is said of
15 “I know you well—you are neither hot nor cold; I wish you were one or the other! 16 But since you are merely lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth!"
Here is the passage in context.
Are we the Church of Laodicea?
Are we lukewarm?
Revelation 3 Living Bible
13 “Let all who can hear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.
14 “Write this letter to the leader of the church in Laodicea:
“This message is from the one who stands firm,[f] the faithful and true Witness of all that is or was or evermore shall be,* the primeval source of God’s creation:
15 “I know you well—you are neither hot nor cold; I wish you were one or the other! 16 But since you are merely lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth!
17 “You say, ‘I am rich, with everything I want; I don’t need a thing!’ And you don’t realize that spiritually you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.
18 “My advice to you is to buy pure gold from me, gold purified by fire—only then will you truly be rich. And to purchase from me white garments, clean and pure, so you won’t be naked and ashamed; and to get medicine from me to heal your eyes and give you back your sight. 19 I continually discipline and punish everyone I love; so I must punish you unless you turn from your indifference and become enthusiastic about the things of God.
20 “Look! I have been standing at the door, and I am constantly knocking. If anyone hears me calling him and opens the door, I will come in and fellowship with him and he with me. 21 I will let everyone who conquers sit beside me on my throne, just as I took my place with my Father on his throne when I had conquered. 22 Let those who can hear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.”
One of those who challenged us in Australia and overseas to look with discernment about spiritual things,in particular spiritual gifts, was Rev Bryce Hartin.
Quite rightly of course he will argue as the Bible tells us "we do not fight with flesh and blood, but the evil unseen rulers of this world."
I have many of Bryce's tapes in my collection including the one you are about to listen to if you follow the link.
So listen if you will with discernment.
http://blessedassurancepromisebox.com/MP3D/G0930gt%20-%20Bryce%20Hartin%20-%20AnAnalysisOfTheCharismaticMovement-1Tim%204.1%201Jn4.1%20Rom16.17-Tape2-8.25Mb-70m35s.mp3
I have put this link here rather than create my own online audio of his tapes.
There are many other audio links to many other speakers I have never heard of so I cannot recommend the site per se at this stage.
It is unlikely that you or I will agree with everything on that website.
We do, however, need to be challenged and not just passively sit back and let the unseen rulers do their thing.
I picked up a book the other day by Helmut Thielicke called "The trouble with the Church".
It was published in 1965.
I haven't read it all but can say amen to some of his points.
He probably was feeling like I do today.
I am disturbed in this day and age by lots of things I see happening in the Church and things I don't see that should be happening
I firmly believe the Church is the Bride of Christ and still has a huge role to play in the Drama of the Ages.
However I think we may well be like the Church in the book of Revelation that it is said of
15 “I know you well—you are neither hot nor cold; I wish you were one or the other! 16 But since you are merely lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth!"
Here is the passage in context.
Are we the Church of Laodicea?
Are we lukewarm?
Revelation 3 Living Bible
13 “Let all who can hear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.
14 “Write this letter to the leader of the church in Laodicea:
“This message is from the one who stands firm,[f] the faithful and true Witness of all that is or was or evermore shall be,* the primeval source of God’s creation:
15 “I know you well—you are neither hot nor cold; I wish you were one or the other! 16 But since you are merely lukewarm, I will spit you out of my mouth!
17 “You say, ‘I am rich, with everything I want; I don’t need a thing!’ And you don’t realize that spiritually you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked.
18 “My advice to you is to buy pure gold from me, gold purified by fire—only then will you truly be rich. And to purchase from me white garments, clean and pure, so you won’t be naked and ashamed; and to get medicine from me to heal your eyes and give you back your sight. 19 I continually discipline and punish everyone I love; so I must punish you unless you turn from your indifference and become enthusiastic about the things of God.
20 “Look! I have been standing at the door, and I am constantly knocking. If anyone hears me calling him and opens the door, I will come in and fellowship with him and he with me. 21 I will let everyone who conquers sit beside me on my throne, just as I took my place with my Father on his throne when I had conquered. 22 Let those who can hear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the churches.”
One of those who challenged us in Australia and overseas to look with discernment about spiritual things,in particular spiritual gifts, was Rev Bryce Hartin.
Quite rightly of course he will argue as the Bible tells us "we do not fight with flesh and blood, but the evil unseen rulers of this world."
I have many of Bryce's tapes in my collection including the one you are about to listen to if you follow the link.
So listen if you will with discernment.
http://blessedassurancepromisebox.com/MP3D/G0930gt%20-%20Bryce%20Hartin%20-%20AnAnalysisOfTheCharismaticMovement-1Tim%204.1%201Jn4.1%20Rom16.17-Tape2-8.25Mb-70m35s.mp3
I have put this link here rather than create my own online audio of his tapes.
There are many other audio links to many other speakers I have never heard of so I cannot recommend the site per se at this stage.
It is unlikely that you or I will agree with everything on that website.
We do, however, need to be challenged and not just passively sit back and let the unseen rulers do their thing.
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